He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. <- this is exactly what I was expecting. On the latest episode of the tvN drama "The Crowned Clown", the fight for authority over Joseon continued, but not without a little romance thrown in between the battles.. Ha Seon (Yeo Jin-goo) promised Yoo So-woon (Lee Se-young) forever love asked asked her to see the flowers in spring, the ocean in the summer, and harvest in the fall.Ha Seon explained the meaning of the tree of love and put . Thanks for sticking through this for me! Ha Sun tells Minister Shin, I will take your life and make you pay for stealing my letter, putting the border at risk, and endangering the capital for your personal gain.. (Maybe even a Lord GSB cameo by Lee Byung-hyun?). I'm going to miss this drama. Did he actually think that he could just walk out of there unprotected and NONE of the people he wronged as the real King or as himself would have come after him?? It did its intended purpose. Give me a break. It didn't turn out to be a bad drama, but it's not like I missed something important! Which is a rarity these days in Kdrama land. Welcome to the world of sageuks. I could have accepted that, though, because Ha Seon only wanted the power to protect the people he loved, and his sister and the ahjae were safe, so he succeeded and then felt it would be better to hand over the throne to someone more suitable. He reaches up a hand for Ha Sun to grasp, then he dies, leaving Ha Sun wracked with grief. Thank you and I very much understand your pain, rage, disappointment, every other similar emotion you may be feeling. Then the death of Officer Jang and the unnecessary pain the Queen had to go through while grieving for Hasun. But overall i really had fun and thrill watching it. Why stop there? And I loved the drums. The reason why this never happened in Joseon is because of the way they keep tap on the king's every movement. It signalled me that it's highly probable he doesn't have enough control over the other departments either, which are Plot Consistency, Believability and Execution. Nooo, not Moo-young! I liked the acting, the cinematography, the music themes, the multilayered characters. It was a beautiful journey, and when the last episode ended I felt a little sad to say goodbye to them all. We can write what we want but everyone involved in it worked really hard to bring this to life. Also, I completely agree that the acting, cinematography, and soundtrack were superb. He is important. However, they should have shown the Queen passing on so that Ho-Sun could have been stated met her in the afterlife. Im glad that some other comments mentioned it here. She orders Ha Sun to confess to colluding with Aisin Gurun and disrespecting Ming, their ally. The cliffhangers and the drums-terrific; and Hasun implemented a controversial tax law and opposed the Ming. Moo-young declares that hes going with Ha Sun, and none too soon because only seconds later, he whips out his sword and goes after the assassins that have been following Ha Sun. It was not possible for me to juggle three sageuks. Thinking the faulty thing has zero faults and loving it under THAT impression? The clown scoffs at everything serious in the world, he is cynical and uses humor to show people that they are too serious. Because it seeemed that he was a good Crown Prince until his dad died and made this stupid discour before. In the dark of night, Minister Shin leads the rebel soldiers to the palace gates and orders them to kill the tyrant king. Just when I thought this drama couldnt get any worse they introduced the seperation trope! The Crowned Clown surpasses the movie masquerade in every level. That too, out of desperation I would have taken as some sort of poetic justice, because Yi Heon died so Ha Seon could be king, and Ha Seon died because of Yi Heon's crimes against the Queen Dowager. An emotional farewell with Eunuch Jo (now Royal Secretary Jo) ensues and Ha Sun leaves the palace for good, following after So Woon who left the palace just before he did. Whether you were satisfied with the finale or not, theres no doubt about it, The Crowned Clown delivered one heck of a rollercoaster ride for its finale. The ending, although not a disaster, definitely needs to be reworked. I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. I think that was an unfortunate oversight. Like you, I'm only live-watching one drama at present, having dropped both TRAP and ITEM. The recaps were enough. From the masterful acting, to the cinematography, to the heart-pounding soundtrack, the drama always felt confident and assured, and I loved the beautiful way it told Ha Suns story. 4 Jul 2021. Nor can I believe that Prince Jin-pyung would have been caught so flat-footed at the outdoor assembly. Seriously reviewing shows is too exhausting; I rather like @hotcocoagirls idea of Yi Heon returning as a vampire, and becoming a sullen loose canon on the Officer Jang and Uri Mathematician investigative team. Because a writer can write a 'bad' end, but if properly done no one can challenge it or be confused. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. Clan power? Ha Sun orders the ministers waiting outside to enter. Woon-shim is allowed to say goodbye, and she sobs that she thought they would finally be together. Ha Sun doesnt want to disrespect his loyal friend that way, and Minister Lee says it makes him feel joyful to hear Ha Sun call him that. Voc sabe quem mandou matar o Ha Seon no final da srie? I initially thought they should have kept yi heon for few more episodes which i mentioned in my comments under ep 8. ???? What is the limit between good and bad? She asks the little girl where she learned to make a wish like that, and the girl says a man who was passing by taught her. . I was interested in Moon Lovers, but when I read only bad comments, I searched for synopsis and ending and actually it had so much so much potential that it's a pity it went that way. I loved the show but we need to know How he survived. Then why have him shot at and left for dead? I have no qualms about it. Loved the show and all the actors, especially the King, not the ending, but glad I watched it. When Kab-soo and Dal-rae's clown troupe arrived where Ha Sun had intended to rendezvous with the former Queen, I wondered how the guardian managed to leave his job working for the navy in Ha Sun's hometown. A remake of the 2012 film Masquerade, the series centers on the tale of a Joseon King and his doppelganger, a clown whom he puts on the throne to escape the intense power struggles afflicting the royal court. For me, the difference between Minister Lees decisions to end a life and Minister Shins or the queen dowagers is the intent. This is not his fault; he is not a real person. I enjoy things I also think are objectively bad. if (d.getElementById(id)) return; And nobody found out the Clown wasnt the King because the King is dead. The plot cant take any additional eps. He falls to the ground, and although Moo-young tries to hold Ha Sun back, he breaks away and runs to cradle Minister Lees head in his arms. js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js"; The King : I think it was sad they didn't show him more as a Crown Prince. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! (I did watch it, and I was right.). That was during my first DB live-watch, OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, which got into some trippy metaphysics. Also I don't see why kill Moo Young in the last moment right when he had finally accepted Ha-Sun as his Master, it felt out of the blue. My sister's 1st one was MLSHR, and now she thinks it's the BEST ever Sageuk in the whole world and uses it as a scale to measure other Sageuks. The goodbye scene to Eunuch Jo sniff so beautiful so sad. Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. And why didn't the rebels have scouts out to spot the approaching relief army? (function(d, s, id) { Because the show you THOUGHT you were getting, the doppelganger plot with the tension and juxtaposition created by that, is actually a different show altogether. I read the first two parts and loved it and wrote my comment even before I read the recap, because I've been dying to since I skipped my way through the finale (what does it even say about a show finale that I skipped everything but the last bit and still got it right), and then I came back just now and read the other two parts and also loved those. And I absolutely loved the ending, with Ha Sun abdicating the throne, because Ive never felt okay with the idea of his keeping it when it really never belonged to him. Why not let him save Ha Seon and then serve him for those two magic years? Because there were no consequences for the King as a pre-existing character. While Ha Sun is studying in the library, Eunuch Jo says that he hasnt been sleeping and suggests he go to bed early. The queen dowager screams at the ministers to challenge Ha Sun, but they all stand silently in support of their king. Or is he just slow witted when it comes to matters like his own safety? While some of the plotting did feel a little rushed at the end, especially with the 2 time jumps, for the most part Crowned Clown delivered a highly satisfying final episode. Jin-goo has indeed been phenomenal. General Kang asks whether he should bring his men to the capital or prepare to fight at the border. 4. His death scene was really great. Shin- Shin and the Queen Dowager eventually find out, or well, guess that the Clown is not the real King. And i also think the doppelganger part is seemingly only the possible way to a mere clown to become a king. Minister Lee : he was really a great character. And the King only died because the King was a plot device and the King was only a plot device because this show, and its writers, are frakking stupid.~) That's how much attention to details that was being paid to the king and his daily routine. In fact it reached 2 digit ratings even afterwards. But then they killed Moo Young for no reason and it made me so inexplicably angry that I cant seem to move on. The survival of the great majority allows everything? Your email address will not be published. They weren't flawless, but they honored their own internal logic and the characters' developmental arcs. This kind of doppelganger plot makes more sense in the movie. He lived such a hard, unfeeling and regimented life and then to have him finally decide to do something for himself by leaving with Hasunonly to make him die with his 'wish' to die with the King?? By making Cray Cray entirely an insane drug addict, they set the bar for the Clown's superiority so damn low - because who can't top "insane drug addict" as an alternative ruler. In sageuks, the best character will always be the one with a twisted past, the one that isn't entirely black or white but has extremely strong values in something, and will do anything to protect those values (i.e. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { We got to see one measly flashback of Yi Heon and the Queen early in their marriage before he started going off the deep end. I recently read a forward (by Don Baker) to the Korean historical novel "Encounter" (1986) by Hahn Moo-Sook where he makes the point that scholars writing history are constrained to probability whereas novelists are constrained to possibility. I liked seeing the leads, the romance was sweet to the point of unbelievable, but what the heck. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! I was sorely disappointed by the ending. The palace is thrown into turmoil and at the center of this chaos is our clown King, Ha Sun. The makers of this show (and I assume the movie) decided to show that story by means of a doppelganger plot. It reduced the second most important character to a plot device and resulted in him being poorly characterised. And youre probably going to reply to this with something along the lines of saying even THIS comment is also entirely subjective, thus ironically, proving my point. Whether you were satisfied with the finale or not, there's no doubt about it, The Crowned Clown delivered one heck of a rollercoaster ride for its finale. The Crowned Clown (Episode 16, Finale) Drama: The Crowned Clown (English title) / Man Who Become King (Literal) Orignal name: / Wangyi Doen Namja Director: Kim Hee-Won Writer: Kim Sun-Deok, Shin Ha-Eun Network: tvN Episodes: 16 Release Date: January 7 -- March 4, 2019 My mind has a mind of its own, and it's like herding cats. (Lol. For one example: Moo Young. The Crown is unlikely to continue past a sixth season, the Netflix show's executive producer has confirmed. Because the show wouldve been more interesting, and wouldve made more sense if he had been treated as his necessary pre-existing character, and therefore storytelling cornerstone, (and Jingoos acting) deserved and required. I'm relieved to know that you, too, find HAECHI a mental bandwidth hog. We see a couple discussing what went wrong in . I really liked to see how the generosity of this character touched the people around him. 2/4 Ha Sun receives a message that the border situation has turned dangerous and Aisin Gurun may attack, since they never received Minister Lees peace letter. Nevertheless, I enjoyed TCC. Hurting herself means kind of killing herself and finding him in afterlife i guess but i don't think thats how it happened. I agree regarding Moo Youngs death. (Oh, I was forgetting Eunuch Cho. I learned a LOT back then. However instead of this being a huge and important plot point, and an opportunity for properly developed conflict and climax, this is practically swept under the rug. In the summer of 1997, Diana did take her. Perhaps because of unavoidable comparison, CROWNED CLOWN has come up a bit short. It turns out to be a trap though that he walks right into. That seemed so unnatural. My thoughts are the queen died of a broken heart when she learned the king was dead. Dodi wants his father to meet his girlfriend Kelly, an . SO COOL.you just turned this drama into the preamble to "KINGDOM". He manages to throw his sword and take out the assassin about to finish off Ha Sun, then slips around Ha Sun to take the sword meant for him. More politics and history but with last weeks (30 min.) Please enlighten us. that is not a given that's how it's scripted for sure. The story takes place in Joseon period, when power struggles surrounding the throne had reached extreme levels. She says that hed have lived a long life if he hasnt been greedy for the throne, but she tells him in a cold voice that shell make good use of his soldiers, and give the throne to Lord Younghwa instead. Enjoy it all you want. Youre amazing cuz you even got the queen dowager to agree. What was the point? To show how good and righteous the Clown was? This is a critique of the show alone. Why not start writing? She showed no remorse for him being gone after that point. Minister Lees body is taken into the palace, where Ho-geol sobs over him. It made me think that the PD doesn't have enough control over one of the most important departments of a Sageuk, which is Wardrobe and aesthetics department. In the past, I've gotten myself in a swivet over dramas I was deeply invested in that later derailed or otherwise succumbed to out-of-character behavior, illogical happy endings, etc., etc. Once he did what he wanted to do, and then some, it was wise of him to make the decision to pass it along to someone else who would use the weight of the throne for the good of the nation. Poof. B) He's attacked and left for dead. The story made a lot of promises, and then didnt deliver. The queen dowager thinks a moment, then gives him permission to invade the palace and remove the clown from the throne. FB.init({ Thank you so much for taking the time to make these recaps. Is he now AWOL? Required fields are marked *. Decent show, awesome costumes and props. That's all we need, they said. I also hated that the poor mom who had his son killed by the previous king had no retribution at all. Was she too pure to have sex? It was a great journey and Yeo Jin Gu really killed it. I am glad you enjoyed TCC. I watched the first 15 minutes or so and knew how they would treat the king's character that I couldn't stand to watch anymore. Yay for Jung Il-woo and the Good Guys. And even I would be interested, and was interested, in seeing what this story looks like. Gotta watch the final episode again.??? And I always love reading your reviews. What a lovely ending. It was one of my most fun and blissful experiences here at DB. Showing Haksan in such slow-motion looked a bit off to me. Where did he get money to travel around? Untuk menghindari pembunuhan, seorang badut bernama Ha Sun yang juga diperankan oleh Yeo Jin-Goo dibawa ke istana untuk menggantikan Raja Lee Hun. How did he suddenly appear by chance in that deserted field? Because they went about writing it completely the wrong way, and the premise was flawed from the very beginning due to how they decided to tell it. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! In Episode 8 of "The Crown", we followed the controversial Martin Bashir interview with Diana and how that shook the monarchy. In the courtyard, she never loses her hostile pride as she drinks the poison and succumbs to its effects. Its not even just that, its poorly constructed as a concept, let alone a written piece. After 15 episodes of drama, tension and romance we finally reach the conclusive chapter to this historical Korean show. created an account to say, I totally agree with you. I thought I would have gotten caught up by now, but have held off until CROWNED CLOWN cleared the decks. 9 is following him into the sageuk? Anyway, overall best Korean drama ever! And its not ministers its just one minister, others didn't want to believe it. He didnt die for any plot related reasons. The Clown : Yeo Jin Gu really acted him very well, showing the subtil evolution from a simple puppet to a real King. He takes the throne and the queen dowager looks frightened, but shes relieved when Lord Younghwa, her choice for king, also enters the room. It'd leave a fairly good impression and understanding about the Sageuk world in your mind. All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. I truly enjoyed the drama's cinematography, particularly the outdoor settings. Nothing was making sense anymore. And that there was a happy ending, of course! I cannot watch two sageuks at the same time without getting the details bollixed up, even if they're set in different time periods. And his relationship with So-woon was already really nuanced and had great potential for a very unique romance in which So-woon would be the only person who had power over him. He says hes been planning this since the rebellion, because the throne doesnt belong to him hes only been borrowing it. The Interest Of Love Episode 16 Recap, Review & Ending Explained, Crash Course in Romance Episode 9 Recap & Review, Click Here To Read Our Full Season Write Up And Final Score. (~You know, its kind of paradoxical. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. Not fond of separation endings. Gapsu raised the two kids but how did that happen? }); xfbml : true, // parse social plugins on this page But this show decided to ignore one crucial part of this premise. But then I wonder: "Why two years? He only existed to play the King and become the King, at the expense of the King. The upcoming CHRONICLES OF ASDAL, set during Gojoseon days.) But none of that had any real stakes. I'm glad I tuned in. The Perron family is greeted by evil just as they arrive at the farmhouse. His weaknesses. Thank you @lollypip for recapping THE CROWNED CLOWN. Still beautiful though. Maybe if you have a better way to say it one day you will get a chance to write a drama yourself. Couldnt stop watching. Its based on Ha Suns name, which means summer fairy, and Eunuch Jo says it perfectly suits him because hes like the summer sun that shines equally over everyone. Prince Jin-pyung lies alone, bleeding and gasping for water. Honestly, its not even the underlying moral issues that are never addressed by this show, although sure they annoy me on a personal level, and I have argued about them till Kingdom come; its that a core ingredient for plot and character was just IGNORED in order for them to try and push the story they wanted to tell. He hands her a letter from Ha Sun, which says that if she promises not to punish his people, he will confess his crimes and hand over the royal seal. A few final thoughts: appId : '127538621120543', . I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. He gasps for Ha Sun to hang his body above the castle gates after he dies, to show that the criminal was brought to justice. Honestly, his death was really a nice plot in the story. After the Secretary stabbed Prince Jin, the Queen thanks Jin for his work thus far and instead vows to put another puppet in her stead on the throne to control. So I dropped it. She gives Dal-lae her two jade rings as a donation, but Dal-lae says theyre too precious. Idk anymore. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { Episode 1 King Seonjo dies, and his fears about the fate of his youngest son Prince Yul come true when his successor Yi Heon (Gwanghae-gun) orders Prince Yul's arrest for treason. My favourite scene was the goodbyes between Eunuch Jo and the Clown, I really loved their relationship. I personally like the movie better. Not king and the clown. Moo-young yanks the sword from his own belly and uses it to kill the last assassin, as Ha Sun sinks to the ground. Two years pass by and we see So Woon a broken shell of the woman she once was. KINGDOM, alas, also got short shrift from me because it was too much to juggle with CROWNED CLOWN. Tags: Lee Se-young, The Crowned Clown, Yeo Jin-gu, Your email address will not be published. One that is like a wolf trying to be a sheep and telling everyone that it is a sheep, when its actually still a wolf. The acting was superb, the scenery was beautiful and the story was different from its source material. Let me say it again. Yeahthere should be a flash back. I found the ending a little stretched don't get me wrong, I always want happy endings and in this case a life as commoners for Ha-Seon and the Queen, but it seemed to me that the story was wrapped up that way to create suspense about Ha-Seon fate (and, I think, to give us assurance that his life will be safe in the future). The Crown season 5 ends with Princess Diana preparing to take her sons Prince William and Prince Harry on a holiday to St. Tropez, organized by Al-Fayed. The last 15mins is just drama just for the sake of drama. Too forced. If he ever has to hang his acting hat on a piece of his work in my mind all he has to say is: episodes 7 and 8 in TTC. I was glad that Ho-sun and the Queen finally got together but the ending sounded more eternal due to the mist and not quite earthy. She asks why hes here and not Minister Shin, and he says that Minister Shin fell in battle, but that theyve got the king locked up. The ending was really beautiful. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. It's like you've scooped every single thought I had about this waste of potential right out of my brain and put it in better words. Nope it was kinda too long. Aside from Queen Elizabeth II (Olivia Colman), season 4 follows: Princess Margaret (Helena Bonham Carter), the Queen's younger sister. Suspension of Disbelief. He cries again as Ho-geol accompanies Minister Lees body out of the palace and past the rebel soldiers, then the gates are closed again. Distracted, Moo-young tries to get to Ha Sun, but hes stopped by a sword through the chest. So-woon had sobbed that if Ha Suns body wasnt there, he must be alive somewhere. Why was killing off all the bad guys done so poorly and quickly? In the history of my country we also have a story like that. Or well he did but not the important ones. It saddens me that my sister can't do the same. Thats is why the drama is "Crowned clown" or "the man who became king" . His dignified presence was a centering, moderating influence for both monarchs, and elevated every scene in which he appeared. After wrapping up the loose ends with both Queen Dowager and Sin Chi Soo, we skip forward a year (or so I presume due to the first dialogue exchange). He basically committed suicide by cop, which makes no sense. He had no backstory. It would have been nice to have more info on who retrieved his body and nursed him back to health and where. It made it interesting. I don't know what came over me that I felt so compelled to embark on JUMONG and KINGDOM OF THE WINDS around the start of the year. (Translation: It takes more energy and attention than I can muster at the time.) It's fine if they want to tell the story of a Crowned Clown- what's not fine is HOW they chose to go about doing it in this particular scenario. As for the cast, so many lovely talents and wonderful performances (my favorites being Jang Gwang, Jang Young-nam, and Kim Sang-kyung because I'm biased). Actually not a copy paste historically accurate like the history channel but more about historically sensitive etc. But we are inevitably always going to reach an impasse @shaani. I was sure there would be a flashbacks putting thing in context. I said this in episode 8, and I will say it again. He promises that hell never become an animal who uses his power for personal gain, and that hell do whats right even when hes scared. js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; Was glad when I saw Officer Jang want to accompany him, but then when those assassins attacked I was like????? It's Moon lovers; Scarlet heart, Ryeo. Hmmm. 1. Other than that, I loved this drama and I'm sorry it over. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! I just wish I could have commented more on CROWNED CLOWN, but the mental fatigue was real. I especially liked that the twists were simple and not that many. It would have been interesting to see him evolving and becoming paranoid. But sometimes powerful people, criminals would keep people who really look like them to escape death just as yi heon did. And had so much fun. He deserves it . It was quite unpredictable and almost each episode ended with a cliffhanger . All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. At the start of the story, we could see that he gave up, he was just in damage control task. For those who are interested and have watched the whole drama, I wrote an essay on why I interpreted it as a tragedy: file:///Users/zozosparklesicloud.com/Downloads/The%20Crowned%20Clown%20(1).pdf. And then the Clown and his Queen live happily ever after, after the Clown suddenly abdicates after having a COMPLETE change in behaviour and personality I might add, that nobody frakking realises. There's no telling how much faulty impressions you'd get if your 1st sageuk was MLSHR or Hwarang or Moon embracing the Sun, because then you'll have it on high pedestal, comparing the other Sageuks to your 1st one for some time for all the wrong reasons. I bitched about this on my fan wall, but I'm so pissed I'll repeat myself. Two years pass, then HS shows up talking about how much time had passed when he woke up. :-) The clown is a symbol of the mind. I was confused too about why the queen dowager spoke to Ha Sun as the king. I wanted to try a sageuk, and picked TCC to discuss about it here on DB. A pathetic attempt at last minute drama for characters I no longer care about and a plot that I think is fundamentally flawed only solidifies my opinion that this drama is written stupidly, and badly. Eventually she moves closer and takes his hand, and he tells her that this is the first time hes killed anyone, yet he has no regrets, and would do worse to protect the nation and its people. O/T but can I suggest that you maybe jump over to HAECHI and give it a try? The queen dowager snarls that he promised to confess, realizing that this is a trap. It would be boring if we knew what happens on the whole drama in a preview. And it becomes very boring to watch. I hate the use of the magic random separation time generator, ( henceforth referred to as the CRM-114 Discriminator ), as its license for the writer to just make up any old thing, the off screen magic that takes place helps tidy things up, loose plot lines melt away, (or not), in the last five minutes. I seriously think they changed writers in the second half.