Theres so many men who more or less only buy bespoke tailoring, and who can spend enormous amount of money on watches etc. Im starting to wonder if the differential is worth it. Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. Many thanks Simon as usual for the very informative article. I have handled several other pairs of C&J and this quality to the leather is consistent throughout. They are never mentioning it, but the leather is bookbinded. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. In terms of value I would say CJ handgrade. Cheers, H. While I havent worn Prada or Ferragamo, I can be quite certain that they will be worse value for money than those mentioned here. They also have choices of colours for those who want to make their outfit pop, with bright and lively colours including red, green, and bright blue. Viberg 2030E 8.5: Good to great fit, but depends on the year and the run. For me, thats the right balance: There are diminishing returns to the higher quality make you can get with more expensive manufacturers, and a lot of my enjoyment comes from having shoes that are fit for particular purposes e.g., sleeker oxfords to wear with suits and smarter trousers, chunkier brogue and split-toes for more casual outfits, rubber soles for wet weather, unlined loafers for the summer, etc. Cnes (above), for example, has been exhibiting in various fairs around Europe, looking for retailers, and is very nicely made, with a bevelled waist and otherwise refined make. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. No idea what size I'd need to make this last work but I'd guess something like 9.5EE. Carlos Santos are another example of value shoes of great quality to price ratio. A pair of EG Chelseas bought today are just as good as a pair bought ten years ago as will be a pair bought in ten years time. To me, theyd come in just below C&J, Loding in Canada had a service (a couple years back) that involved a full time patina specialist in Montreal. Here in the States, the mark-up on most of these brands, when one can get them, tends to be breathtaking. Hugs my foot like a glove on all sides, including the arch, but I wouldn't mind if the heel was a bit more snug. Thin socks preferred due to somewhat narrow toe box. NF Bootmaker 44: Tried these on and this was a great fit, a bit long length wise, but the boot is a smidge narrower and the waist is really tapered. Its a comfortable, yet roomy fit. Myrqvist shoes are dreadful. Red Wing Moc Toe: 10D, narrow in ball of foot. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. Look our for slightly used or shop worn EG, Lobb and St. Crispins on ebay. Indeed, stylistically they are even quite close. European lasts just dont fit well as they have heels that are way too big. I'll try to be fairly comprehensive TLB Mallorca: I own a wingtip on the Alan last. **Notes about feet:** Left foot pretty much bang on 9D, right foot maybe 9.25D. Throughout this commentary from Jesper, its worth keeping in mind that some of the points are objective, some more subjective. 240 Last 9.5: Bad fit. Carminas are more expensive than Meermins. But Carmina say they dont use them even though Jesper was told they do. Unfortunately I can only confirm that. Every now and then I got excited by a nice design at a lower price point only to be disappointed by quality issues. The heel stiffener is a piece of the internal structure of the shoe, which sits inside the heel cup. Red Wing 23 9D: decent fit. Rancourt 113 loafer: men's size 6D is pretty good Meermin Hiro derby: men's UK 4.5 wearable but the heel is . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. No stretch sir. Thanks for the response. That point has been removed until it can be proved either way. Meermin has started including thin leather insoles with the HOK boots now and they improve the fit significantly. Being from the UK my first proper pair of shoes at University were a pair of Loake 1880s they were fine and really all I needed at the time. Allen Edmonds is a shoe company and will always be known as such. American brands seem to be better at this (Alden, AE). I cant imagine very people are going to buy a sports jacket or merino sweater there. I would agree that some change has happened since Stollenwerk sold the company to an investment fund, they seem to have gone into the greed and certainly for some cost cutting somewhere to make up for the handicap of making in the US. * **Midas Bootmaker Landshaker** 42EU excellent fit with room to wiggle toes in medium socks. Notes about feet: Low instep, low arch, wide-ish with somewhat splayed toes. The Septieme Larguer felt very similar to the Andres Sendra from what I remember. There's a tiny bit more room at the ball too now. Also worth noting, is that Ive never written about this on Shoegazing, it just came up in the discussion with Simon when we talked about differences. Since that was my advice in your survey, I can only but congratulate. Alexander 9E/9.5D: Excellent fit when worn sockless. Especially compared to other Spanish or Italian shoes, which are also a bit softer than the English., North America: Spier & MacKay, Allen Edmonds, Cobbler Union, John Doe. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Great fit all around. Carmina shoes are stylish, fashionable, chic, and very good-looking. Sendra has its own brand as well as making for others, which is a little more expensive than Berwick or Meermin. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Solid fit. Customers complain that the Meermin shoes are often poorly finished. Was no question about it in any of the cases). Carmina shoes are really great shoes that help you to take your style to a whole new level. Velasca is an Italian brand that has become popular (they opened on Chiltern Street recently) as has German brand Shoepassion (which makes in Spain). Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. Its a EEE and taller toe box with room everywhere. Carminas Quality Control is definitely another trait that makes these shoes better than Meermin shoes. *Although I trust Jespers impartiality, it needs to be stated that he now works for Skolyx, which has its own shoe brand and sells other shoes. Carmina shoes are made with classy Shell Cordovan Leather that is really elegant and unique. I recommend .5 down and just accepting that it is a wide pattern. Former Affiliate Vendor Threads; a Locked Forum. Not a thick sock last. Nobody wants a bad fitting pair of strides but at least they wont cause you physical pain. Actually Im surprised Crownhill wasnt mentioned here, I thought they were quite popular. It is not surprising for people to give high praises to the Carmina shoes due to their high durability and quality build-up. Might not be the same for everyone, but many who havent tried bespoke shoes would be very happy once they do, that Im quite sure off. 8 last 9D: Bad fit. Carminas guidance is down by half for shell or for unlined , in all lasts. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. There are many places out there that have discussions about shoe sizing across brands and lasts, but I wanted to get a thread started here as well. So I have never needed to seek an alternative, and have been fortunate never to need to spend more than 500 on a pair of shoes. I have a pair of Berwick chukkas and theyre pretty decent but they also dont feel as good to wear as the AEs (personally I wish Id spent more money on a higher quality make, but the store was out of C&J chukkas at the time). Yeah, Luca Rubinacci apparently also has a cooperation with them, which frankly I dont understand, Just for info, Velasca in Italy does have a selection of shoes that are Goodyear welted:https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear The nicest pair of shoes I own is a pair of JM Weston oxfords (from their main line, not the Blake line), and I have to work to tell the difference between the two (Weston has shaped heels, for example). Although the vast majority of my formal clothes over the last 40+ years have been bespoke, I have never seen or felt the need to go bespoke on shoes. AEs MacNeil is the epitome of wingtips imho. I suspect the 1035 in 9.5 would fit me perfectly. The quality of the leather is identical. Im really tempted to name and praise (as opposed to name and shame! Additional notes about feet:I was measured as 10.5D by an Allen Edmonds store associate several years ago. This article, then, is an analysis of the market for mens dress shoes below the Crocketts Handgrade level - all informed by Jesper. Even with a tongue pad, facings fully come together throughout the instep. I suspect 8UK would have been better, * **Enzo Bonafe 74945** 8UK perfect fit, snug around the heel and ball with a comfortable instep but still toe room, * **Enzo Bonafe 804** 7.5UK fits a bit better than 8UK, 8UK has a lot of heel slip in shell boots, * **Enzo Bonafe 062** 8UK fits similarly to 804 7.5UK. It's been a while, but I didn't have any complaints after break in. They look good, a bit more fashionable than the others, but I also cant say Ive worn them enough to really get a sense of their quality. Has the quality of Crockett & Jones gone above Carmina lately? No real complaints, but I haven't tried them in quite a while. Overall fairly similar to TLB but a little sleeker overall, with tighter cut soles, more dense stitching, and (in my opinion) sleeker lasts. Andres Sendra: I have a pair of wholecuts. Thing is that, not referring to Berluti necessarily now, but we do see a number of very famous bespoke shoemakers, not least in England, who the past years have started to put out shoes that arent properly made and/or have a proper fit. Interesting selection. Because every Carmina thread is comprised of "what size am I" questions. Perhaps Alden, which usually has the option for lots of widths? 1 down the toe could be getting very short. - 8 (very voluminous, though) Carmina- Robert- 8 Carmina- Rain- 8 Carmina- Forest- 8 Carmina- Soller-8 . These shoes are well-appraised by people worldwide for their comfort, style, and proper appearance. You always get something more for your money (if you avoid big brands/designers) but the best value-for-money options will nearly always have been selected already by the cheaper brand. Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 Carminas are really chic, classy, and fashionable. Carmina shoes are good shoes that firmly grip your feet for extra balance and stability. Ive found having slowly worked my way up the chain that in terms of value for money, its Cheaney, Trickers and Alfred Sargent which have ultimately paid off. They've seen a lot of rain, snow, slush and worst of all, salt. In India there is Bridlen (below), which makes a very solid, classic-looking shoe. Ie if you spend 500 on a pair of shoes youd probably be looking at circa 2,000 for your suit and 150 for your shirt. very lucky to have bought 8 pairs of EG at a big discount so my shoe cupboard is overflowing and needs to be trimmed now When it comes to fashion quality, Carmina shoes come off as more stylish than the Meermin shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_8',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0');FASHIONABLE CARMINASFASHIONABLE CARMINAS. in fact my favourite leather is meermin museum calf, while meermin llama I dont really like, and I wouldnt touch their black box calf with a 10 pole. Other than that, interesting article. Could not find info. Id not have worn them in wet conditions though. 9US is too generous, * **Red Wing 8 last (iron ranger)** 8.5D a bit snug on the sides of the mid foot, might've gotten away with 8.5E, * **Rider Boot 42 last** 9D comfortable fit, but lowish instep at the top makes it hard to put them on without shoehorn, * **RM Williams Comfort Craftsman** 8G with a little heel slip, * **TLB Mallorca Alan** 8F UK generous without being overly roomy. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Oliver 9.5E: Excellent fit with thin socks, like a glove custom-molded to my foot. What type of heel stiffener do they use? 7.5UK fits well with thicker socks. Allen Edmonds 65: 10.5D - Okay fit. With Skolyx the price is cut down by making a basic shoe, but clean and consistent. Although it may be difficult to clearly see from the photos online, could I ask what you think of their the last/design of their chukka boots? Its just a selection of brands, and focus were on cheaper shoes than J. FitZpatrick (although he has a new lower-priced range coming). I think I could also safely do this last in in 9.5, but I'm not trying to wear my boots as tight as possible. Alden Plaza 9.5D: One of best fitting lasts, feels great. It's other Asian brands that are likely to become known in the West first, though. Our builds will give about .25 size in the long run, on average. Will post more fit notes when they arrive. Is higher volume though. Kyle from Baker's later told me that my instep width is more like EE/EEE, which is what causes many of my fit issues around the mid-foot. My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) Lets be honest here, what can you realistically expect from a 250 pair of leather shoes made in Europe, when a pair of sneakers produced under questrionable conditions in some third world country already cost as much if not more? A reader even referenced it in a comment above on this post. Im always trying to promote Goodyear-welted shoes, but its not easy when someone has just tried Meermin, and thinks all proper shoes are that hard. Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. Simon wrote that it is expensive to add an extra width across all shoes. Although Carmina shoes are more expensive than Meermin shoes, there is so much value that you can get when you make that extra investment to get them. I run in minimal shoes, lift in minimal shoes or barefoot, and hike a lot in zero-drop trail runners. It was a bit controversial, I remember some who felt pinpointed argued quite strongly against it. He was also involved in the development of the TLB Artista range, so there is a financial relationship with all of those brands. But they belong in a different category, a quality level down., France, Germany, Italy: Loding, Orbans, Velasca, Shoepassion. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes. The C&J hangrade, however, is another story. I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. 65 last 10D: Bad fit. Finally and most importantly, find a last that truly fits your feet. The alternative is leather board read the rest of the article and youll see it. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Lots of toe room and good heel feeling. Carmina shoes are well-fitting shoes that grip your feet firmly on the go so that you get more balance and stability in your motions. Particularly for certain watches perhaps, although less likely for certain muted bespoke suits which might fit better but wont look more expensive than a good of-the-peg one. As of late, I found that the cost differential between Crockett & Jones and Carmina has become more significant. As someone who generally purchases shoes in this price point and has experiences with Carmina, Loake, Allen Edmonds, Berwick and Meermin.. It is something that is destroying the reputation not only for these brands but for bespoke shoes in general. Generally, more expensive suedes are the softer stuff, so it seems to me that theyd actually wear faster. I am a little biased here because I have had these for longer than any other pair on this list, so they are more broken in, and the last happens to fit my foot better than any but the C&J 348 too. EL, I think you kind of answered the question in your first statement. Now fits comfortably after a substantial break in. When you go to shoe shows like Micam, the Berwick stand is always the one that's crowded.. Good to have it spelt out, Michael is correct when simply paying a US retailer for a Northampton shoe, but Ive purchased over 20 pairs of English shoes and boots over the past 18 months, all directly from a myriad of U.K. retailers and stockists and in some cases, the factory directly. Any feedback from you on this brand. on that curve of diminishing returns. Ive purchased a few Grenson pieces this year. Reply below with your sizing in any lasts you own/have experience with. The manager gave me a significant discount for resoling them but, even after three decades as a loyal customer, I would be reluctant to buy from them again. Id be interested to see a reference for the made in Asia comment in the article. Although the quality is nothing to write home about, they are incredibly comfortable. Because my older Carmina heel stiffener are longer and substantial that the newer ones. As Carmina did when it first became popular, and as TLB Artista (below) is perhaps doing now. Red Wing 8 9D: decent fit. After further research I stand by my words. Even more troubling is that I found no review by an established website stating so. Also Barkers at the 1880 price point are made in the UK. JavaScript is disabled. Premium Leather Uppers stitched down well with Goodyear Welting strategies make the Carmina shoes to be one of the most well-finished shoes that we have had the privilege of wearing. For what its worth Joshua, (with plenty of experience of both) I wouldnt necessarily consider C&J a step up from Trickers. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. One brand not mentioned were the French company Bexley. Thanks, which makes them a bit of a bargin at the moment with 20% off. They are both leather lined with a full leather insole and both have a Goodyear welted single leather sole. Finally, this last is fairly conservative, with less sleek lines than the C&J, Carmina, Weston, etc. Im surprised not to see JFitzpatrick in the Spain list. Youre better off looking at the tannery the leather came from and if it had a recognizable leather name (cxl for example) but even within that there are gradations on the product from the same tannery. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. There are some good value pick ups in this range, especially when youre figuring out what you like and dont like and building up your wardrobe slowly over time.. Nice, good to hear your experience Taylor, thanks. On the raw materials, you get oak-bark tanned soles, you get the top level of upper, and so on. (I think I prefer the darker colour of the first). Ive just received an email from Herring Shoes announcing that Church Shoes Ltd have decided to increase their prices to reposition their brand at a higher price point. Comfortable out of the box and have continued to be excellent. My personal thoughts are as follows: Loake As the article suggests, the Loake 1880 is the bare minimum you should go for. The price range for Meermin loafers is $165 for women and $175 for men. The former is made in Spain, the latter in Portugal. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. Im a scrooge but think this is crucial to include in your mental budget. I would note that although the shoes I own have tight sole stitching, C&J models without pinking on the soles (for example, the Sydney with rubber soles) are noticeably less sleek. **Renav has inconsistent sizing it turns out. I can fully close the balmoral lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like Scotch Grain (above) and Otsuka, with brands like Miyagi Kogyo and Oriental on a level above that. NF Bootmaker 43.5: Had these modified for a wider waist as the 44 was a bit long. You will find that most Meermin shoes are poorly finished when compared to the quality Goodyear Welting of the Carmina shoes. I hope that makes sense. The $200 Meermins (while being good value for money) is nowhere near the equivalent of a pair of Carminas, and they would be quite far from the likes of G&G or EG. Given I can purchase a pair of CJ for 650 retail shipped from England this is not a great value. 8UK was much too loose. Their last is made for the Japanese feet, which are flatter in general with a smaller heel. Well Id imagine the aim is to make more money, given that some will know the Cleverley name and want to buy into it. * **Oriental Shoemaker unknown oxford last** 8.5US is comfortable but instep is too low. The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. It is a smidge shorter than 2030, but that's due to the lack of taper. Viberg 2040 8.5: No variable widths for this last. I now have 3 different pairs on that Cheaney last. I could not ask for a better fitting oxford. me, Morjas and Skolyx have been better in that regard. These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. I have Meermin boots and happy with the quality. The alternative was to shut out the market of men with wider feet. Really good customer service is important to me and is one of the things that keeps me going back. I think either would be fine. A lot of new brands have been popping up in recent years, too, especially in Asia, and they often feature impressive specs for the price. Not a big difference though. Meermins can be bought at prices between $160 and $210 in the online and offline marketplaces today. I have owned shoes from most of the English brands, and 5-10 Spanish brands and 5-10 Italian brands, and its a quite clear difference (but again, there are exceptions in both directions. My personal experience I can unreservedly recommend Allen Edmonds (the Strand in particular). I have a pair of Chelsea boots by Sanders, bought at John Rushtons. p.s. Never felt loose. I could fully close the lacing with the shoes still being a little loose with 9E. Carmina Inca Chukka - 10 UK. Less so in the winter. However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. Carmina shoes come with better finishing than the Meermin shoes. Honest , relevant and informative. And the soles are much more flexible too, more similar to a Blake stitched shoe than a Goodyear welted one. Rancourt 800 9D: Great fit. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. Wesco MP1339 9E: It's alright, toe box is really low and the gusset take up volume running the whole way up the boot as it is fully gusseted. While I have no problem wearing RTW tailoring that is cheap relative to the bespoke stuff you discuss on the website, with shoes I found it impossible to go back to cheaper brands once I got my first EGs. They claim it will still last as long and that the defects are just cosmetic, but still, it may not be what you expect. Trickers town shoes, especially the wonderful Belgrave adelaide, top any C&J shoe I have in terms of comfort and build. Jesper thinks Skolyx (above) is better in this regard than the others, though he is biased*. Very useful for us who buy shoes in this price range. Do you guys size down or buy your standard Carmina size? Feel free to include any additional information about your feet, such as: Specific circumferential measurements (as requested by Bakers, Russell Moccasin, etc). 9.5D heel to toe. 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