What would the harm be in pretending he was a young "marinesniper?" PETER ODOM: Yes, Nancy. When did he find out the truth as to who he had been corresponding with? And my daughter Alexa loves you, too, and we love the twins. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The vengeful girl turns to one of his much younger co-workers on line. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Yes, Jessi. SCHROEDER: When you`re in a game room like a pogo.com, and you`re talking to people, you can also pull to a little side table, and your little avatar can actually go to the side and you can have a private chat to talk one-on-one which is -- GRACE: You mean the fake people talk to other fake people? She strikes up a romance in one of those teen chat rooms with another teen called Marinesniper, a handsome 18-year-old set to deploy to Iraq. I mean, that is just sick behavior, not illegal, though. Turns out Mary, middle aged, overweight, and tragically bored, had created a new life for herself online. Friday, my wife and I and our youngest son went camping with another family and their young son. The family budget was tight, but Jessi was going to two proms, her own, and her boyfriend's. GRACE: As far as I`m concerned, Daniel Barrett, she should be charged with murder. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I know, Tom." He`s not 18. She had to go and physically get that underwear in order to send it away to somebody she thought was a Marine. PHILLIPS: No, they don`t because -- well, first of all, each one was doing it, so no one is better than the other in this particular game of deception that they were playing. PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, I can`t believe you`re even asking that question. Prosecutors in Buffalo, meanwhile, looked for a way to charge Mary Shieler for something -- anything -- in the case but concluded she may have tramped all over the moral and ethical line, but never crossed the legal one. Then read this story, it might suddenly make your mom look like Mother of the Year. Emotionally, I was immature. Jessi texted him at the last minute not to visit, but Montgomery, who had learned of the plan to meet, was incensed. PETER ODOM: She had to know it. She keeps luring him back in. The "New York Post" reported from the beginning that she took her camera and took pictures of her daughter in compromising positions when her daughter didn`t know that, even up her skirt and sent that via the Internet. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: to an 18-year-old. He was not luring a teenager, Peter Odom. MARINESNIPER1000: My heart will exist no more after Saturday and will never feel compassion for another person until I die. The point-blank shooting of a 22-year-old young man. Also known as Mary B Dailey. PHILLIPS: are looking for escapism. Wanting to end the affair, Montgomery found he couldn't and described it as like a 'drug'. Given that there were no specific laws to address what Drew had done, prosecutors based their case on Drew having violated MySpace's terms of service. His messages became increasingly violent, as he was forced to watch their romance blossom in the same chat rooms he used to frequent with Jessi. What damage would that have done? DANIEL BARRETT, SON MURDERED IN INTERNET LOVE TRIANGLE: Yes, we have. Montgomery was in a teen chat room and his profile reveals his real age. It`s actually almost laughable until that on-line teen love affair ends in murder. Bombshell tonight. Talhotblond calls him on it right away. And when Thomas Montgomery started playing, he claims he inadvertently found himself in a teen chat room and that is where the Talhotblond, aka Jessi, aka, her mother, allegedly contacted him first. Help me out, Bethany. Princess of Wales channels the Welsh dragon in a bright red coat at St David's Day Mike Tindall's latest money-making scheme! Mary A Shieler, age 96, Lincolnshire, IL Background Check Cities: Mountain Home ID, Newport WA Possible Relatives: Taylerann Elizabeth Faul, Denise Nicole Haskins Show More Mary B Shieler, age 61 View Full Report Address:***** Brier Hill Ln, Ronceverte, WV. What a crazy moment that was for him. Fate finally took a hand. You know, she`s probably a nice-looking girl. They certainly had never slept with her. The pair then seduced each other for months, as "Tommy" shared tales of combat in Fallujah, which Montgomery learned about by watching the news, while Jessi sent sizzling bikini photos and a split heart pendent that said "Jessi and Tommy forever." GRACE: Thank you. "And on his way back, he was saying, 'I'm going right past your house. Then she made a startling confession. Montgomery found out about this, became incensed and on September 15, 2006, drove to meet Barrett as he left where they both worked and shot him three times, killing him. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, don`t try to blame her, Thomas! I mean like poker or something? So I figured I`ll talk back to her. E. ODOM: I was wondering about that, Nancy, because that could be an invasion of privacy or surveillance, eavesdropping type of crime. CASAREZ: Yes. Plus: Check out more of the latest entertainment, fashion, and culture coverage on Sexy Beastphotos, videos, features, and Tweets. Passions intensified, and Montgomery began making threats against both Barrett and Jessi's mother. I call it malice murder. GRACE: Well, wait, wait, wait! GRACE: Everyone, let`s stop and remember Army 1st Lieutenant Jared Southworth, 26, Oakland, Illinois, killed, Afghanistan. But the IMs that came from Talhotblond showed her to be torn --- mad one instant, desperate to return to a love with a man who she knew didn't exist teasing him. A vengeful 'Jessi'/Mary Shieler then used the Internet to find a 22-year-old co-worker of Montgomery called Brian Barrett, setting in motion a tragic series of events which led to his murder.. You shouldn`t be able to do and manipulate what she did to the level that she took, and then walk away and say that was interesting. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I couldn`t help it. I want to hear about your son. I honestly don`t know. Go ahead, Nancy, I`m sorry. It won`t kill you. The second best result is Mary A Shieler age 80+ in Lincolnshire, IL. The Sinister Sisters. Before long, Jessi was sending Brian her photos and the two had become a cyberitem. Sometimes I look in the mirror and I feel -- it just didn`t turn out. "), there has been no legal recourse to try Shieler, who has said she plans to write a book about the dangers of the Internet. Her husband divorced her over her deception and her daughter Jessi cut ties too, moving in with relatives in Virginia, where she was attending college. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just to reiterate what the specialist just said -- I saw the documentary and Courtney Cox`s (ph) movie. Select this result to view Mary A Shieler's phone number, address, and more. And in the real world -- GRACE: Bethany, I think -- P. ODOM: -- these things can lead to tragedy. That`s why they`re constantly online with each other. brookstone therapeutic percussion massager with lcd screen; do nigel and jennifer whalley still own albury park GRACE: Don`t start out with saying -- throwing mentally ill out there because in my world of crime and justice, when you say insane or mentally ill, you`re talking about a legal definition that could get the killer off and he could end up doing six months in the crazy bin and then walking free, all right? Now, John Phillips, these two adults, a 45-year-old and a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, they don`t care that they`re playing a teen? TALHOTBLONDBIG50: I know. "At three in the morning," Capt. After all, he never intended to actually meet the girl. Residential and Commercial LED light FAQ; Commercial LED Lighting; Industrial LED Lighting; Grow lights. Jessi flirted with Barrett, whom she goaded into humiliating Montgomery at work and online. That`s mistake of fact. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Wish you were nude." We know all about getting text messages, but how do police go back and obtain, for instance, chat room transcripts? Let`s go to Peter Odom, Kirby Clements and Bethany Marshall. The chance encounter online between a gorgeous young 18-year-old girl named Jessi and a handsome 18-year-old marine called Thomas Montgomery seemed on the surface to be innocent enough. Only much later did it emerge that she was really a middle-aged woman named Mary Shieler. With both men believing that she was the gorgeous young thing in her profile pictures and keepsakes sent to them, the pair engaged in a furious rivalry. I`m not going to bother, since you are a famous producer. BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: Well, the confusion between fantasy and reality reminds me of the teenage couple whose real-life baby starved because they were building a virtual baby on line, so they were more interested in fantasy than reality. I just wanted something that would (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: You are seeing video from the Lifetime original movie called "Tall Hot Blonde (ph)," and it is actually named after the pseudonym a 45- year-old part-time secretary uses. 'I have never felt this way,' Montgomery replied. Him and I have been Cub Scout leaders for a few years, and the boys played together on our soccer team. Jessi had no knowledge of her mother's cyber-life. He`s busy with the murder charge. Is this for real? And that`s why they got caught up in this fantasy and their fantasies is fell in love with each other. Peter Odom, what is a 46-year-old man doing trolling online for 18- year-old girls while his wife is upstairs asleep and his two daughters are asleep? Wish you had a better relationship? GRACE: Out to the lines. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Jessi, enclosed you will find a picture of my family. We're told Jessi doesn't speak to Mary anymore.Mother's day must be a killer holiday for Jessi. I wish I could be that 19-year-old Marine for you." GRACE: OK. That`s what an avatar is, like your little mascot, right? Cindy was furious, but this good mom felt sorry for the girl, and wrote "Jessi" a letter, exposing Montgomery's true identity: Do not trust words on a computer, let this go, you will only be hurt by a man who has mastered the art of manipulations and lies. He`s actually a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, a father of two and very much married. Well, as you mentioned in your opening, you`re dealing with a portly, dim-witted, bald man who is living an essentially pathetic life. It should have never happened. When Montgomery found out 'talhotblond' had a new lover, Brian, a slow burn began. Self: On the Case with Paula Zahn. He`ll say, leave me alone. Thomas Montgomery was in a sexless marriage and a dead end job. But most such virtual relationships aren't dangerous as this -- when "Talhotblond" and "MarineSniper" struck up a relationship online, it ended in murder. They turn to these chat rooms to try to live up to a different persona. Mary Shieler also pursued an education -- she took classes at a community college in West Virginia. His father is with us live tonight -- lost his life, multiple gunshot wounds to the face, the jaw, point-blank range, over a girl neither had ever met. What do you think now? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What on earth are you doing on there? Imagine Mary's surprise when she found out she wasn't the only good liar. Mary wanted only the best for her little girl. GRACE: With me is BARRETT: And on Sundays, he would get up and him and his buddy volunteered and were coaching a Little League baseball team. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Talhotblond? The relationship had become more than a flirtation, Montgomery said. Horrified, 'Jessi' sent Montgomery a text message ending the affair. I want to thank you for being with us. GRACE: OK, question, Jean Casarez. Trending. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I ache to be with Tommy. Mary Shieler would later explain her actions by saying she was "just having fun playing games online.". dodgers baseline club menu; stephen leslie bradley daughter. MARINESNIPER1000: It`s too late, Jessi. I`m going on to my next little project. That`s where she belongs, and that`s one of the reasons why we`re on the phone talking, is because I just feel it needs to change. "I love you always and forever, Tommy," wrote Jessi. In May, 2005, posing as a young, handsome Iraq-bound Marine, he entered a teen chat room the popular game site "Pogo.". Shieler has never apologised to her daughter and her husband divorced her and Jessi cut off contact. What is that? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "No, it isn`t." ELEANOR ODOM: I think so, Nancy. Mostly, Mary struck me as a bored, attention-seeking person. This post was published on the now-closed HuffPost Contributor platform. For almost a year, marinesniper and talhotblond carried on a steamy love affair, until one night, when marinesniper's real life wife, Cindy Montgomery, discovered her husband's secret stash of photos and panties. It`s Barbara Schroeder. Encouraged and enjoyed the drama and attention she got from having two guys get jealous and fight over her. You know, she has not taken responsibility to the point where -- her ex-husband who we interviewed, he himself said, look, I think jail would have been the only thing that would have driven it home to this woman, his ex-wife that she did something wrong. So then Jessi brings in, lures Brian Bennett, an innocent bystander, to start to ask him questions. OK. What actually happened? She is not tall, hot, blond. And this on-line love affair continues. Montgomery's wife, alerted by her daughter, found a trove of love letters, photos and mementos from Jessi, including a pair of red panties. He is moving to West Virginia to be with the love of his life.". UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "To hell, I hope." GRACE: Actually, you know, you might laugh it off, Kirby, but this ended in the murder of 22-year-old innocent. I think these were average people who had boring lives and holes in their souls, and they needed something to make them feel special. Daniel, have you ever considered a civil lawsuit against this woman? Co-workers led the police to Montgomery. Montgomery says nothing sexual happened between them after Talhotblond found out how old he was, but their IMs tell a different story: But it didn't last. Shieler, according to Schroeder, has never apologized to her daughter, shown any remorse, or acknowledged wrongdoing of any sort. Montgomery's screen name, Marinesniper, was a nostalgic harkening back to the six years he spent in the military as a young man. This would have been a great time for the fantasy to end. CASAREZ: That`s the way I understand the facts, yes. ELEANOR ODOM: I know. Brett just married. We are taking your calls. 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So I sent in a guy with my questions and he set up a great interview with him and he -- it was kind of like a buddy-buddy interview and he came forth with all kinds of information, including the fact that he was impotent, which was a huge fact in this case, because not only did this teenager -- GRACE: Did you just say impotent? The man in the center is Tommy, my husband." While Montgomery said the virtual sex made him "feel kind of dirty," he was in too deep to sever ties with her. What -- how did he strike you? Joining me out of L.A. who produced the film on this case, including an interview with the alleged killer. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. Montgomery and Shieler were both lonely people who reached their mid-forties with their best days behind them, who then created deadly deceptions in the hopes of recapturing the glory of youth, and of finding real intimacy by fervently denying their true selves. Learn About Thomas Montgomery Documentary - Talhotblond Talhotblond is a 2009 documentary that apprehends an Internet love triangle story that resulted in a real-life murder. Jessi's swimsuit photos, and Mary's screen name: "talhotblond" were the perfect bait. I think in the two years that they had corresponded, she learned of this person that he worked with. GRACE: That does sound like a crime. While Mary Shieler's husband divorced her and Jessi cut off contact (Shieler approached Jessi at the divorce hearing, according to Schroeder, and said, "why don't you get over this? That`s what they are. Peter Odom, Kirby Clements PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy. And then she starts to aggressively pursue this young man. The woman that he thought he was going after was a woman, an 18-year-old woman. If you need to flag this entry as abusive. Another world-class liar hit the web. 100% MARRIED 100% of these people are married, and 0% are single. And in this stack of instant messages, over a dozen times Montgomery begs her. This (EXPLETIVE DELETED) loser is leaving on Saturday. Jessi told Montgomery they were through, and seemed to take up with Barrett again. I said, hey, Tall, how are you? "Something like this will happen again. This includes being supportive of William emotionally and financially, as well as sharing time with William and jointly making decisions for his health and well-being.. A love rival over a girl none of them had never -- had ever even met. We used to call it "starting stuff." I'll just play the game with her,' said Montgomery, whose tragic story has now been turned into a Lifetime Movie directed by 'Friends' Courtney Cox. Mary B Shieler, Age 61. This erupted in violence. "It was like a drug. You will what on Saturday?" Right. The family budget was tight, but Jessi was going to two proms, her own, and her boyfriend's. Rishi Sunak warns MPs they can't trust 'Mr 2nd Referendum' Keir Starmer on Brexit in meeting with backbench DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Rishi Sunak's vaunted Brexit deal could be a landmark achievement, Rishi's deal gives Brexit a second chance. When Tallhotblonde began instant messaging Montgomery on a gaming chat room site, the Sunday School teacher was concerned about how it would look if he replied. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Make love to me, Tommy." Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Top 250 TV Shows Most Popular TV Shows Most Popular Video Games Most Popular Music Videos Most Popular Podcasts. And al he did was text back and forth to this 45-year-old woman posing as Tallhotblond. Movies. She was actually a 45-year-old part-time secretary with a teen daughter. Both of them are parents. "That it would end, fall off and that would be the end of it. I mean, we filed a civil suit against Tom Montgomery with the attitude of stopping him from ever trying to write a book and winning monies and things of that nature. They were a team, inseparable, getting nails done together and prom shopping for not just one, but two dresses. I'd love to get together.'". GRACE: Not what I asked. Few stories better deserve the appellation of our recurring category . Photos she sent Montgomery were of her daughter. GRACE: I guess, Barbara, she thinks she is a hero, OK? Bronze Star, Purple Heart, a police officer. A West Virginia senior in high school, a softball player, calls herself Tallhotblond on line, takes to the Internet to strike up a romance in a teen chat room with Marinesniper, a handsome 18-year-old set to deploy to Iraq. He was having an on-line love affair with who he believed to be Tallhotblond, a teen girl. But that verdict was overturned in 2009 by a federal judge, who said that the verdict "criminalizes what would be a breach of contract.". UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What does Brian have to do with this? That was an hour ago. I just never thought it would go anywhere," she said. To Dr. Bethany Marshall. P. ODOM: It doesn`t mean it`s right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "What you two talked about." And when they couldn't find Thomas Montgomery, they feared they knew just where he was headed. However, when police arrived at her door they were presented with 45-year-old Mary Shieler. It was in fact picture of himself taken thirty years beforehand. idrac is initializing first power on may be delayed; trucks for sale in oklahoma under $5,000; is wegovy covered by united healthcare; can my boo die; CASAREZ: Good question. Shieler hemmed and hawed, and began to cry. I think Dr. Bethany GRACE: That is Tallhotblond! Revealed: Victim of Canadian porn star cannibal is Chinese New Jersey woman stunned to discover homeless victim of 'I'm going to be late. I`m Nancy Grace. And, you know, imagine that moment when you`re handed a photo of the girl that you just killed a man over. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What do you want, Tom? Mary Shieler is already divorced and might be continuing living at the same place however, Jessi didn't get over this. SCHROEDER: Right. My heart aches to hear you call me your Tommy. That is actually Montgomery many, many years ago. There`s the real Talhotblond. The woman behind the whole thing. What happens? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why are you saying that?" PHILLIPS: Absolutely, the thought -- freaks is the exact right word, Nancy. He`s truly a young man. "Shame on her -- she not only didn't do anything about it, I think she provoked it," said Ken Case. TALHOTBLONDBIG50: You know I care and why. JEAN CASAREZ, LEGAL CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION": That`s the most important part of the story, Nancy, because Talhotblond, she`s instant messaging one night Montgomery, and lo and behold who`s on the computer but Montgomery`s daughter. So did you say pogo.com? You replaced him with Timmy." He`s actually a balding 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, a married father of two. The picture that Cindy Montgomery (right) sent 'Jessi' of her family life with Thomas Montgomery. "She [said she] felt like she was doing [Montgomery] a favor," said Schroeder. Lived In Oak Hill WV, San Diego CA, Lewisburg WV. Had they ever met in real life, Thomas Montgomery and Mary Shieler might just have been the perfect couple. SCHROEDER: Yes, he admitted to my producer that he was impotent. This is what happened. Past Addresses: Oak Hill WV, Oak Hill WV +4 more. BARBARA SCHROEDER, PRODUCED FILM ON CASE THAT INCLUDES INTERVIEW WITH KILLER: Hi, Nancy. At one point, when his wife actually told him to get off the computer and talk to her, Montgomery couldn't. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "How you told him I`m a loser and predator, I don`t have a life. You know, there`s something else, too, about this woman that was not charged. Jean, you didn`t tell me he was impotent. Why not a conspiracy charge? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who would have thought it would lead to a two-year affair, a love triangle, and more. Statistics for all 4 Mary Shieler results: 61 yrs AVERAGE AGE 25% are in their 60s, while the average age is 61. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Wish I could be that 19-year-old Marine for you." She continued her talking to Montgomery online: Marinesniper: my heart aches to hear you call me your tommie, Marinesniper: i wish i could be that 19 yr old marine for u, "In his mind, this was the jackpot," said Barbara Schroeder, who documented the bizarre relationship in a documentary called "Talhotblond." El, and not only is she being Tallhotblond, she`s using pictures of her daughter. Daniel, I`m just sick hearing these facts. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, e-mails, surfing, the usual. Thomas Montgomery, 46, a machinist, Sunday School teacher, and former Marine from Clarence, New York, received a message in a gaming site chat room in spring 2005 from someone with the handle "talhotblond," who informed him that he was in the kids section. They both separately, independently go into a teen chat room posing as teens and strike up a love affair with somebody they meet in the chat room. The cyber-flirting, which began in May 2005, soon turned to cyber-sex as Montgomery lied about his history of covert ops, even though he never saw action during his stint in the military. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "He left a few copies of your conversation on my toolbox today. E. ODOM: I agree, Nancy. GRACE: Well, you`re accurate about that. She actually sent this guy her daughter`s underwear. And You Thought Your Mother Wasn't Perfect. The reality is, the victim in this case is a young man, Brian Barrett, just 22 years old, a co-worker of the suspect, shot three times in the neck, jaw, and arm close range by a rifle, a high-powered rifle. If you read these e-mails, he was clearly manipulated by a woman who should have stopped playing her game. And I think it can happen -- this kind of stuff can happen to everybody, but when it leads to murder, that`s when it gets a little crazy and, you know, they clearly crossed the line. Brian To/FilmMagic. KIRBY CLEMENTS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I do have to say that that is -- that`s just crazy what she did. And I agree with Eleanor. And Mary Shieler, she has nothing. GRACE: There`s really no way to save him, but now still one part of this love triangle is left unattended. Daniel, when you first learned your son, Brian, had passed away, how did all that play out? We`re blurring her photo because that`s her daughter, her teen daughter`s photo she`s using. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Wish you were nude." "There was virtual sex going on in there between her and Tommy," he said. And I -- I respectfully disagree. GRACE: Although Kirby and Peter are both great trial lawyers, I think we need a shrink on this one. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I checked out her bio. Daniel, when you hear these facts, it must make your stomach turn. That`s Tallhotblond. If you think you`re talking to an underager, if you`re an adult and you think you`re talking to an underage girl, you`re a weirdo.